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	<title>Comments on: The F Word: Never Mind the Detainees, Get Dick Cheney out of my Backyard!</title>
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		<title>By: TovarishLeitenant</title>
		<link>http://grittv.org/2009/05/23/obama-cheney-torture-memorial-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>TovarishLeitenant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Privet, greetings from Russia, stumbled upon this forum almost by accident.&lt;br /&gt;
Your man Cheney is good for us, a godsend.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is representative of your whole country  (one of the enthusiastic elite minority, the fewer supporters the better.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s inspirational, prompts us here to work out and stay fit  (he can contain Russia effectively and preemptively, has won before, in the cold war etc.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He can help dehumanize the potential enemy (which is you), the most important thing in warfare.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How come we dehumanize anyone for torture when we ourselves tortured people here, both before and after ww2.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Simple, we never tried to think up rules / rationales / proper procedures.&lt;br /&gt;
Acting on hate and anger why would one use ‘rules’ and clever little names unless one is a SLEAZY TWO-TIMING COWARD?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Surrender now, we do take war prisoners and don’t beat them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Privet, greetings from Russia, stumbled upon this forum almost by accident.<br />
Your man Cheney is good for us, a godsend.</p>
<p>He is representative of your whole country  (one of the enthusiastic elite minority, the fewer supporters the better.)</p>
<p>He’s inspirational, prompts us here to work out and stay fit  (he can contain Russia effectively and preemptively, has won before, in the cold war etc.)</p>
<p>He can help dehumanize the potential enemy (which is you), the most important thing in warfare.</p>
<p>How come we dehumanize anyone for torture when we ourselves tortured people here, both before and after ww2.</p>
<p>Simple, we never tried to think up rules / rationales / proper procedures.<br />
Acting on hate and anger why would one use ‘rules’ and clever little names unless one is a SLEAZY TWO-TIMING COWARD?</p>
<p>Surrender now, we do take war prisoners and don’t beat them.</p>
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		<title>By: MillieNeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>MillieNeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Till age 11, humanish kids can regenerate a finger up to the first joint. Salamanders regenerate entire limbs and tails if wounded. I just regenerated my sense of a world not drenched in fear to the exclusion of The Constitution and the pursuits of happiness. That necessary sense was amputated by Dick Cheney, his multi-vultural friends, and that snarl of contempt he is not ashamed to wear in public.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Till age 11, humanish kids can regenerate a finger up to the first joint. Salamanders regenerate entire limbs and tails if wounded. I just regenerated my sense of a world not drenched in fear to the exclusion of The Constitution and the pursuits of happiness. That necessary sense was amputated by Dick Cheney, his multi-vultural friends, and that snarl of contempt he is not ashamed to wear in public.</p>
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		<title>By: sadlyyes</title>
		<link>http://grittv.org/2009/05/23/obama-cheney-torture-memorial-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator>sadlyyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 20:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DARTH CHENEY is&lt;br /&gt;
grossly :&lt;br /&gt;
1,RECKLESS&lt;br /&gt;
2,NEGLIGENT&lt;br /&gt;
3,DEADLY&lt;br /&gt;
………………………but only with others&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DARTH CHENEY is<br />
grossly :<br />
1,RECKLESS<br />
2,NEGLIGENT<br />
3,DEADLY<br />
………………………but only with others</p>
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		<title>By: MegaWhy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MegaWhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought Dick Cheney made some good points.  President Obama did too.  I think to be intellectually honest I have to look at the facts not what one group or another says.  I think we have to put things in context and not get caught up in hyperbol.  I do wish President Obama would use more logic and not depend on so much emotional appeal. His logic seems faulty and more emotion based than it should be.  I have to say this is beginng to concern me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Dick Cheney made some good points.  President Obama did too.  I think to be intellectually honest I have to look at the facts not what one group or another says.  I think we have to put things in context and not get caught up in hyperbol.  I do wish President Obama would use more logic and not depend on so much emotional appeal. His logic seems faulty and more emotion based than it should be.  I have to say this is beginng to concern me.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://grittv.org/2009/05/23/obama-cheney-torture-memorial-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1788</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He’s doing the least truth-telling he can!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He’s doing the least truth-telling he can!</p>
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		<title>By: Doggonit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doggonit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NYT sums it up the best…. Dick Cheney is working hard to get a book deal which has been difficult because of his low approval ratings.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wish someone on the panel would have pointed this out because we’ve all heard Cheney’s lines before.  He isn’t adding anything new and doesn’t have any authority.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYT sums it up the best…. Dick Cheney is working hard to get a book deal which has been difficult because of his low approval ratings.  </p>
<p>I wish someone on the panel would have pointed this out because we’ve all heard Cheney’s lines before.  He isn’t adding anything new and doesn’t have any authority.</p>
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		<title>By: ImperialFlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImperialFlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, television.  Let’s construct a panel of one liberal, one conservative, and one squawkbox, and then talk about a mass of inane pointless poll numbers on issues that aren’t actually in front of us for debate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Laura brought up an excellent point about the contradiction in Obama’s rhetoric and his actions; something “Ed” saw fit to purely gloss over (even misleading about) when he introduced the segment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I appreciate you posting this video clip, it was a solid reminder why not to watch television “news.”  I’ve found that doing searches on Google Video for the names of the leading researchers and academics on a particular subject bears much more fruit.  You can consume an hour long interview or lecture buy Warren, Bacevich, Galbraith, etc. and walk away with information… instead of a headache.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, television.  Let’s construct a panel of one liberal, one conservative, and one squawkbox, and then talk about a mass of inane pointless poll numbers on issues that aren’t actually in front of us for debate.</p>
<p>Laura brought up an excellent point about the contradiction in Obama’s rhetoric and his actions; something “Ed” saw fit to purely gloss over (even misleading about) when he introduced the segment.</p>
<p>Anyway, I appreciate you posting this video clip, it was a solid reminder why not to watch television “news.”  I’ve found that doing searches on Google Video for the names of the leading researchers and academics on a particular subject bears much more fruit.  You can consume an hour long interview or lecture buy Warren, Bacevich, Galbraith, etc. and walk away with information… instead of a headache.</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
		<link>http://grittv.org/2009/05/23/obama-cheney-torture-memorial-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1785</link>
		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks….I was beginning to wonder if you wanted her to have any other transplants as well…;))&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks….I was beginning to wonder if you wanted her to have any other transplants as well…;))</p>
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		<title>By: solai</title>
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		<dc:creator>solai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s true and I, too, wish he’d disappear. But, there’s an upside as well. I just can’t believe he doesn’t have a lawyer pleading with him to STFU.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s true and I, too, wish he’d disappear. But, there’s an upside as well. I just can’t believe he doesn’t have a lawyer pleading with him to STFU.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
		<link>http://grittv.org/2009/05/23/obama-cheney-torture-memorial-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1783</link>
		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am afraid that the more his rantings are covered favorably by the lunatic press; the more cover it gives to the dittoheads.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid that the more his rantings are covered favorably by the lunatic press; the more cover it gives to the dittoheads.</p>
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