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	<title>Comments on: GRITtv Live at Noon: Patrick Cockburn on the Protests in Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Iraq seeks changes to U.S. troops pact&lt;br /&gt;
Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:12pm EDT&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Iraq cabinet seeks changes to U.S. troops pact&lt;br /&gt;
10:33am EDT&lt;br /&gt;
Iraqi Shi’ite says Maliki wary of U.S. pact&lt;br /&gt;
10:19am EDT&lt;br /&gt;
Iraqi forces raid home of pro-U.S. group leader&lt;br /&gt;
10:33am EDT&lt;br /&gt;
Kazakhstan withdraws soldiers from Iraq&lt;br /&gt;
10:33am EDT&lt;br /&gt;
Vatican demands more protection for Iraq Christians&lt;br /&gt;
10:33am EDT&lt;br /&gt;
FACTBOX: Security developments in Iraq&lt;br /&gt;
12:12pm EDT&lt;br /&gt;
Featured Broker sponsored link&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;By Mariam Karouny and Peter Graff&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq demanded changes to a draft security pact with the United States Tuesday after it failed to win the support of its political leaders despite months of painstaking negotiations with Washington.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The announcement effectively reopens negotiations which had led last week to the unveiling of a draft that would require U.S. forces to leave Iraq by the end of 2011. The objections appear to be about details rather than the broad thrust of the pact.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The cabinet has agreed that necessary amendments to the pact could make it nationally accepted,” government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told Reuters after a cabinet meeting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSLL41745220081021?pageNumber=2&amp;virtualBrandChannel=0&amp;sp=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.reuters.com/article.....38;sp=true&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq seeks changes to U.S. troops pact<br />
Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:12pm EDT</p>
<p>Iraq cabinet seeks changes to U.S. troops pact<br />
10:33am EDT<br />
Iraqi Shi’ite says Maliki wary of U.S. pact<br />
10:19am EDT<br />
Iraqi forces raid home of pro-U.S. group leader<br />
10:33am EDT<br />
Kazakhstan withdraws soldiers from Iraq<br />
10:33am EDT<br />
Vatican demands more protection for Iraq Christians<br />
10:33am EDT<br />
FACTBOX: Security developments in Iraq<br />
12:12pm EDT<br />
Featured Broker sponsored link<br />
Money Center<br />
#1 FX Broker &#8211; Shares Mag 2007</p>
<p>By Mariam Karouny and Peter Graff</p>
<p>BAGHDAD (Reuters) &#8211; Iraq demanded changes to a draft security pact with the United States Tuesday after it failed to win the support of its political leaders despite months of painstaking negotiations with Washington.</p>
<p>The announcement effectively reopens negotiations which had led last week to the unveiling of a draft that would require U.S. forces to leave Iraq by the end of 2011. The objections appear to be about details rather than the broad thrust of the pact.</p>
<p>“The cabinet has agreed that necessary amendments to the pact could make it nationally accepted,” government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told Reuters after a cabinet meeting.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSLL41745220081021?pageNumber=2&amp;virtualBrandChannel=0&amp;sp=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article&#8230;..38;sp=true</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have had numerous conversations with young men returning from Iraq who talk about U.S. soldiers using Iraqi people walking down the street for target practice.  They have shared some horrendous stories&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;another perspective&lt;br /&gt;
But the arrangement gives Iraqi courts the right to prosecute US&lt;br /&gt;
soldiers and civilians if they commit “grave and premeditated felonies&lt;br /&gt;
outside their facilities and when not on missions.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The decision is seen as a hard-won concession for Iraqi Prime Minister&lt;br /&gt;
Nuri al-Maliki who has taken a tough stand on protecting his country’s&lt;br /&gt;
sovereignty in the pact. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/browse_thread/thread/4b5afc05b113c538&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://groups.google.com/group.....05b113c538&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Blackwater faces war crimes inquiry after killings in Iraq&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/blackwater-faces-war-crimes-inquiry-after-killings-in-iraq-396686.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....96686.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had numerous conversations with young men returning from Iraq who talk about U.S. soldiers using Iraqi people walking down the street for target practice.  They have shared some horrendous stories</p>
<p>another perspective<br />
But the arrangement gives Iraqi courts the right to prosecute US<br />
soldiers and civilians if they commit “grave and premeditated felonies<br />
outside their facilities and when not on missions.”</p>
<p>The decision is seen as a hard-won concession for Iraqi Prime Minister<br />
Nuri al-Maliki who has taken a tough stand on protecting his country’s<br />
sovereignty in the pact. </p>
<p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/browse_thread/thread/4b5afc05b113c538" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group&#8230;..05b113c538</a></p>
<p>Blackwater faces war crimes inquiry after killings in Iraq<br /><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/blackwater-faces-war-crimes-inquiry-after-killings-in-iraq-396686.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/n&#8230;..96686.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: GRITtv</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRITtv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the LA Times:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Although the current text provides a calendar for U.S. military withdrawal, it also grants American soldiers immunity from Iraqi law in a majority of situations. Many Iraqi lawmakers are unhappy with the protections that U.S. forces would have from the Iraqi court system.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the LA Times:</p>
<p>Although the current text provides a calendar for U.S. military withdrawal, it also grants American soldiers immunity from Iraqi law in a majority of situations. Many Iraqi lawmakers are unhappy with the protections that U.S. forces would have from the Iraqi court system.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another question for Patrick,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What do you think about the Iraq Vets Against the War who protested and were arrested just outside of the Presidential debate last week.  This protest and arrest were ignored by the MSM and basically ignored by the so called progressive blogosphere.  Amy Goodman of Democracy Now did take the time to pay attention to these Vets and their concerns.  What do you think about the MSM and much of the progressive blogosphere ignoring this protest and arrest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both media worlds were obsessed with “Joe the Plumber” for four days after that debate&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another question for Patrick,</p>
<p>What do you think about the Iraq Vets Against the War who protested and were arrested just outside of the Presidential debate last week.  This protest and arrest were ignored by the MSM and basically ignored by the so called progressive blogosphere.  Amy Goodman of Democracy Now did take the time to pay attention to these Vets and their concerns.  What do you think about the MSM and much of the progressive blogosphere ignoring this protest and arrest.</p>
<p>Both media worlds were obsessed with “Joe the Plumber” for four days after that debate</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Questions for Patrick.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the recent Iraq/Bush administration agreement.  U.S. contractors and U.S. military would not be held accountable for alleged crimes committed against the Iraqi people if they were in the line of duty.  Do you think the people of Iraq are aware of this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since the endless Presidential campaign began two years ago the MSM’s coverage has dwindled down to “two minutes per week per network” or even less.  The coverage of the war in Iraq has not been much better in the so called progressive blogosphere.  Do you think Americans have a grip of what is really taking place in Iraq or Afghanistan?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The 5 million Iraqi refugees barely receive any media coverage in the states.  What can you tell us about the conditions that they find themselves in that are obviously a direct result of the illegal invasion of their country.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What can you tell us about the largest embassy in the world being built by the U.S. in Iraq?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions for Patrick.</p>
<p>In the recent Iraq/Bush administration agreement.  U.S. contractors and U.S. military would not be held accountable for alleged crimes committed against the Iraqi people if they were in the line of duty.  Do you think the people of Iraq are aware of this?</p>
<p>Since the endless Presidential campaign began two years ago the MSM’s coverage has dwindled down to “two minutes per week per network” or even less.  The coverage of the war in Iraq has not been much better in the so called progressive blogosphere.  Do you think Americans have a grip of what is really taking place in Iraq or Afghanistan?</p>
<p>The 5 million Iraqi refugees barely receive any media coverage in the states.  What can you tell us about the conditions that they find themselves in that are obviously a direct result of the illegal invasion of their country.</p>
<p>What can you tell us about the largest embassy in the world being built by the U.S. in Iraq?</p>
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