Comments on: Meanwhile in Minneapolis…police confiscate laptops and video equipment http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/ Cultivating a Better Conversation Sat, 14 May 2011 01:31:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: PNRead http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-917 PNRead Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:51:28 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-917 <p>OK Can we spell Learning Curve children? After an email tutorial let’s see if I can get this to work. The first link is a video from August 2007 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc_zvoOkBhg" rel="nofollow">Critical Mass Minneapolis police arrest cyclists</a>. The second, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PpgVUraQQ" rel="nofollow">also from August ‘07</a>. And the third, <a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/11591171.html" rel="nofollow">the neo-con commentary</a>. I think I’ve got it! Hope these links have been worth the trouble.</p> OK Can we spell Learning Curve children? After an email tutorial let’s see if I can get this to work. The first link is a video from August 2007 Critical Mass Minneapolis police arrest cyclists. The second, also from August ‘07. And the third, the neo-con commentary. I think I’ve got it! Hope these links have been worth the trouble.

]]> By: PNRead http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-916 PNRead Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:31:48 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-916 <p>Whoops! First time I did this. I’ll try the link thing again. First one <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc_zvoOkBhg" rel="nofollow"></a> Second <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PpgVUraQQ" rel="nofollow"></a> Third <a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/11591171.html" rel="nofollow"></a> There, sorry about that.</p> Whoops! First time I did this. I’ll try the link thing again. First one Second Third There, sorry about that.

]]> By: PNRead http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-915 PNRead Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:25:57 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-915 <p>A little hometown update: the MPD has known all about Critical Mass (see these links: and ) The last is particularly illustrative of the MPD’s kinder/gentler treatment of bicyclists! Perhaps, knowing that Glass Bead Collective has filmed the NYPD doing similar things in the Big Apple, our own finest thought a little pre-emptive action in the wee hours of the morning might save them some grief. BTW, just so everyone out there knows what a serious threat these biker gangs pose to our fair city read our local rag’s answer to Ann Coulter LOL and her take on the cops’ necessary response to the evil menace here: </p> A little hometown update: the MPD has known all about Critical Mass (see these links: and ) The last is particularly illustrative of the MPD’s kinder/gentler treatment of bicyclists! Perhaps, knowing that Glass Bead Collective has filmed the NYPD doing similar things in the Big Apple, our own finest thought a little pre-emptive action in the wee hours of the morning might save them some grief. BTW, just so everyone out there knows what a serious threat these biker gangs pose to our fair city read our local rag’s answer to Ann Coulter LOL and her take on the cops’ necessary response to the evil menace here:

]]> By: LisaG http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-914 LisaG Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:28:41 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-914 <p><a href="http://www.lauraflanders.com/grittv/2008/08/27/meanwhile-in-minneapolisan-update/" rel="nofollow">update</a> - press conference in MPLS with National Lawyers Guild</p> update – press conference in MPLS with National Lawyers Guild

]]> By: LisaG http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-913 LisaG Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:26:00 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-913 <p>to fill in a little - the bicyclist that was hit was also arrested. In the paperwork, the officer involved said that *he* had been attacked by this biker, a statement contradicted by the tourist video that surfaced the next day.<br /> Here’s a NYT story about it, from Jim Dwyer’s About New York column<br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/nyregion/30about.html?ex=1375588800&en=5c276b60fd2ccaa5&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink" rel="nofollow">When Official Truth Collides With Cheap Digital Technology</a></p> to fill in a little – the bicyclist that was hit was also arrested. In the paperwork, the officer involved said that *he* had been attacked by this biker, a statement contradicted by the tourist video that surfaced the next day.
Here’s a NYT story about it, from Jim Dwyer’s About New York column
When Official Truth Collides With Cheap Digital Technology

]]> By: selise http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-912 selise Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:15:42 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-912 <p>i don’t think we’re that far apart - i don’t rely on good behavior. caution is definitely called for. but neither do i condemn solely on the basis of the uniform. that is all - trying to be open to the possibilities….</p> i don’t think we’re that far apart – i don’t rely on good behavior. caution is definitely called for. but neither do i condemn solely on the basis of the uniform. that is all – trying to be open to the possibilities….

]]> By: T-Bear http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-911 T-Bear Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:50:08 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-911 <p>I had long hair 1969 on, my vintage is retired. The ‘68 Chicago Police Riots are still fresh. The point is, relying on proper behavior when police are under orders to do otherwise is risky at best, foolhardy most the rest of the time. Yes there will be those who agree with you, just saying, that uniform when worn makes caution the object. I do not rely on anecdotal evidence for my caution, YMMV </p> I had long hair 1969 on, my vintage is retired. The ‘68 Chicago Police Riots are still fresh. The point is, relying on proper behavior when police are under orders to do otherwise is risky at best, foolhardy most the rest of the time. Yes there will be those who agree with you, just saying, that uniform when worn makes caution the object. I do not rely on anecdotal evidence for my caution, YMMV

]]> By: selise http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-910 selise Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:34:59 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-910 <blockquote><p> the law will not be equally applied</p></blockquote> <p>very true. i am a middle aged white woman. i have it comparatively easy.</p>

the law will not be equally applied

very true. i am a middle aged white woman. i have it comparatively easy.

]]> By: selise http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-909 selise Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:33:49 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-909 <p>t-bear, i’m not offended. i have seen cops beat kids bloody, i have been tear gassed and pepper sprayed (i know this is not much compared to what many here have seen and experienced). and i’ve seen cops who helped me break rules they thought were stupid and then flash me the peace sign. i’ve received encouragement (while protesting) and been told by one cop that he wished he was on the street with me and next time he planned to be on the other side.</p> <p>i just don’t think one size fits all - good or bad.</p> t-bear, i’m not offended. i have seen cops beat kids bloody, i have been tear gassed and pepper sprayed (i know this is not much compared to what many here have seen and experienced). and i’ve seen cops who helped me break rules they thought were stupid and then flash me the peace sign. i’ve received encouragement (while protesting) and been told by one cop that he wished he was on the street with me and next time he planned to be on the other side.

i just don’t think one size fits all – good or bad.

]]> By: T-Bear http://grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/comment-page-1/#comment-908 T-Bear Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:28:49 +0000 http://www.grittv.org/2008/08/26/meanwhile-in-minneapolispolice-confiscate-laptops-and-video-equipment/#comment-908 <p>As long as misprision of authority happens under shield of badge, once one does it, all become tainted. That is the purpose of the uniform (alike all over). In a small community, this rarely happens. Not so in larger populations. I have experienced such misprision. It exists. It is real. It is how the authoritarian personality expresses itself. It is the venue for authoritarian personality, these organizations expressing the authority of the state upon the populace. I was just saying you there are in trouble, a grave danger exists. This does not diminish your experience with these people. Your experience may be what is needed to avoid exposure, but then, the law will not be equally applied. Another horns of dilemma.</p> <p>Nice to see you here, sorry about the brusk last time, no wish to offend.</p> As long as misprision of authority happens under shield of badge, once one does it, all become tainted. That is the purpose of the uniform (alike all over). In a small community, this rarely happens. Not so in larger populations. I have experienced such misprision. It exists. It is real. It is how the authoritarian personality expresses itself. It is the venue for authoritarian personality, these organizations expressing the authority of the state upon the populace. I was just saying you there are in trouble, a grave danger exists. This does not diminish your experience with these people. Your experience may be what is needed to avoid exposure, but then, the law will not be equally applied. Another horns of dilemma.

Nice to see you here, sorry about the brusk last time, no wish to offend.

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